That’s a case capacity difference of 20.07% favoring the .25-06 Remington. History Introduced in 1955 the .243 Winchester is based on the 7.62x51 military (.308 Winchester) case necked down to .243” (6mm). Its 26-inch stainless-steel barrel is completely free-floating and was made by Krieger, a company famous for accuracy and top quality. I have had several swift's over the year's, never had feeding problems because all of them liked being seated close to the rifling making the OAL too long for a short action. From what I have seen the 243 is a bit better in the wind, of course depending on the bullet selection. or 220 Swift might serve you better. Latest. Refine by Caliber: 25-06 Rem 6.5 Creedmoor. On the other hand, the .243 kick noticeably harder than the centerfire .22s and its muzzle blast is more disconcerting than all but the most powerful .22s, such as the .220 Swift and .22-250. Description. It can be said that the 243 is all you need, no arguemnet here, but if you add a Swift to your arsenal you won't regret it. As far as reloading, I consider them a toss up. The ideal coyote hunting cartridge is flat shooting, highly accurate, and won’t ruin pelts. When the Swift grows-up... it'll be a .243. So years ago I sold my 22-250 to finance building my perfect coyote rifle, in 25-06. The swift is a great one and a great doggy round. They all have their respective place. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .223 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. Refine by Caliber: 220 Swift 243 Win. I shoot the 243 with 55gr Bts alot and have had several that had over 2000rds down the tube without any troubles. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Keep the 243 and get the 220swift, the swift is a great cartridge and barrel life will be as good as the 243s will be. The 22-250 & .220 Swift are the two best Coyote rifles ever invented. The gun is used almost exactly as you have described. I would keep the 243. ", The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. Getting 3500fps out of an 8 twist 27" Kreiger. The last group I shot was .325 Hope this helps. I have no experience with the 22-243 so I can only comment on the Swift. By Chuck Hawks. I've taken deer with no problems. This does come at the expense of more (though not excessive) recoil and muzzle blast though. #I realise that if a shooter reloads brass with various amounts of powder I shoot the 243 with 55gr Bts alot and have had several that had over 2000rds down the tube without any troubles. He is out with a Winchester Model 70 Chambered in 220 Swift. .243 Winchester Doing perfect double-duty as a deer/coyote rifle, Winchester’s 6mm cartridge — based on the .308 Win. Both the .22-250 and .220 Swift are very flat shooting, retain more kinetic energy, and have less wind drift than the .204 Ruger and .223 Remington. What are some of the advantages and disadvantages of the 220 swift and or the 220 swift Ackley improved. Offered in .223, .220 Swift, .22-250, 243 … I've been dinging around with the idea of a Swift for a long time... but ready some of the other posts about a Swift having feeding problems if the action was originally with a regular .473 bolt fact, that one would encounter feeding problems... Having had and used both, I would say 22-243 all the way and it is not even close. A 60-70ish grain bullet is trolling along nicely and is not far short of the ballistics of the quicker .22 CF's. Comments made regarding the .220 Swift as being more effective than several .243 loads must be understood in context. Built around the standard-length Mark V action, it is available in .223, .22-250, .243, 7mm-08, and .308 in single-shot and repeating versions and as a single shot only in .220 Swift. ruger, id like to know what you mean about barrel life being more about the shooter. I am looking to re chamber a rifle to 220 swift or 220 Ackley improved. 220 Swift. My model 70 Swift with 55 gr. The Lazzaronis have a barrell life of 750 rnds per the builder if loaded to spec. Long story short, … I believe the myths about reloading the Swift and it being a barrel burner are just that. In order to hit a distant target a rifle must be correctly sighted-in, and to accomplish that the shooter must have some working knowledge of the bullet's trajectory. containers. The .220 Swift has a smaller but fervent following, yet the .22-250 Remington is undoubtedly the more popular, and maybe for reasons that include more than marketing. Interesting, "Everyone in favor of Gun Control... raise your right hand. For those who love to compare notes, the Fireball is a bit faster than the Hornet (2,987 fps vs 2,387 fps), but is often beat out by the .222 Remington (3,319 fps) and the .220 Swift (3,514 fps) all … He gets good accuracy- has to shoot 'roos in … I'm thinking the easy solution here is a plain vanilla 243 running 55BTips. Just my opinions. The .243 can handle most of what North America can dish out. loades in the swift will do all you need to do and are NOT hard on a barrel. The balance of light recoil and versatility as both a varmint and big game cartridge quickly led to the .243 being one of the most popular rifle chamberings in the world. HAPPY HUNTING Seeing as how you have and can get a train load of .243 brass I guess it's .243 all the way. May 13, 2015 #14 243 is a fine foxing round and all round calibre. 3600 to 3700 fps, 55 gr. It's easy enough to hit 4000fps, or even 4200 if you want to step on it. Hope you get a good case trimmer for a Swift. The .220 Swift (5.56×56mmSR) is a semi-rimmed rifle cartridge developed by Winchester and introduced in 1935 for small game and vermin hunting. case — offers a great selection of bullets for the coyote. The 243 win has a case capacity of 54 grs, the Swift is 48. #Subject: .222 vs .223 vs .22-250 vs .220 swift vs .243 for Range/Accuracy #Date: 1 Aug 1994 17:53:02 -0400. Today 243 Outdoors is taking over the channel. Refine by Caliber: 6.5 Creedmoor 308 Win. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. More Guns. Id keep the .243 as well, good for light game & larger game. I have both and use both for calling as well as a 218 Bee. 22-250 vs 220 swift vs 22-250 Ackley for large varmits, deer. Good luck i have never owned either of them.Did hunt some with dads 243 and worked fine for me.as balistics go try comparing them on a balistics web site . Keep the 243 and get the 220swift, the swift is a great cartridge and barrel life will be as good as the 243s will be. BALLISTIC ANALYSIS. The 25-06 would seem to offer the same flat trajectory, using heavier bullets. The .243 is a better "all around" round. #I would like to know which of the following calibres is recommended for #best accuracy with the longest range? .17 Remington .222 Remington .223 Remington .22-250 Remington .220 Swift .243 Winchester .257 Roberts .260 Remington 7mm-08 Remington .308 Winchester It's like they get there before you pull the trigger. In this infographic, we make a direct comparison of the 22 Creedmoor vs. the 220 Swift. sierra hollow points. It was the first factory-loaded rifle cartridge with a muzzle velocity of over 1,200 m/s (4,000 ft/s). The heavier bullet weights carry some very good exterior ballistics that buck the wind real well. If you heve to have 4000 fps to satisfy ego be prepared to replace a berrel after a few thousand rounds, just as you would if you load the 243 to max for all of your shooting. I've run both and I like the 22-243 better. I load 42 gr imr 4064 with 50 gr nosler ballistic tips. I load the Swift at about 3,700 fps and at this loading the Swift is operating at very low pressure as compared to loading the 22-250 at the same velocity. Refine by Caliber: 243 Win 25-06 Rem. In spite of the larger case capacity of the .220 Swift, most modern ammunition is only 100 fps or so above that of the .22-250 Remington. Here’s a look at three of the best. I had a .22-243AI. I single load all of mine. It will drive a 55-grain bullet to over 3800 fps, and that short bullet at that velocity will provide enough hydraulic shock to plant a coyote where it stands. hollow points is excellent out to 400 yds, providing placement is right and there isn,t to much wind. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .22-250 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. .220 has a known tendency to burn out barrels, plus as said before, you can do more with the .243. Current one is set up specificly to run the 75gr Amax. What if you decide to hunt a bit tougher game? Discussion in 'Varminter & Hunting Forum' started by wboggs, Dec 21, 2011. There was no problem getting 4,200 with fifty-five Noslers with it. Given the high volume shooting attendant to some varmint hunting, these may be critical factors. I believe you I just want to know what you do. and 8 lb. I have a first year production model 70 220 swift with a 3 diget serial # Standard barrel 26" long. Vs. .243 Win. 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Ammunition Selection The swift is a great one and a great doggy round. It should also be st… If you already have it, the .243 sounds fine to me. I use one by remington arms. Coyote Cartridges: .223 Rem. 10 Early Ice … Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.205" Width: 0.473" Average FPS: 3845 Average Energy: 1674 Average Gr: 51 Recoil: 0.9 Power Rank: 1.96 of 20 The .220 Swift is an old cartridge made back in 1934 by Winchester and is based off the 6mm Lee Navy and even older cartridge designed back in 1894. I know a number of fellas that like to punch holes in paper with the 243 at extended ranges. I have a 22/243 that I shoot 75gr amax bullets through at 3500fps. What's the fastest Swift you have heard of? Build a 22-250AI with a reamer dimensioned for Lapua 22-250 cases. Available in 1 lb. By Ron Spomer. If you prefer a bolt-action for hunting to 500 or 600 yards max, a 22-250 Rem. Have had a few now. Eric the Red Well-Known Member. Vs. .22-250 Rem. When the wind picks up I opt for the 243 BLR with 85 gr. Max loads in both 22/243 and Swift about 1250 to 1500 rnds barrell life as in any caliber that hits 4K+ IME. .220 Swift: King of the Hill The Swift is as old as your grandfather and burns barrels like they were made of dried pine, but don't let that stop you from acquiring the ultimate varmint round. 220 Swift, 243 with light bullets both really good, I use a 22-250 and a 20 Tac and there are many many others as well . Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, o At an oal of 2.750 they run flawless in a short action. Cartridge (gr@ft/s) Rifle Weight (lbs) Recoil Energy (ft-lbs) Recoil Velocity (ft/s).17 HMR (17 at 2550) 7.5: 0.2: 0.17 Rem. Anyone know the normal distance on both calibers without exaggerating any or are they comparable, because I just need to know which one is the better caliber and for reloading purposes...thank you for any imput. I say keep the .243. November 11, 2019. This bullet grains range from 40 gr to 60 gr, and its speed ranges between 3,600 on the 60gr and 4,200 fps on the 40 gr. We looked at the load data from our own loads of the 22 Creed and the load data from factory ammo available for the 220 Swift. Model 700 VS SF (Varmint Synthetic Stainless Fluted) Model 700 stainless steel barrel, receiver and action fitted with 26" heavy, fluted barrel in synthetic stock. Swifty (25 at 4000) 8.5: 1.6: 3.5.204 Ruger (33 at 4225) I have been told to try a 220 Swift Ackley improved with a 1 in 12 twist with a 28" barrel. The .243 can be just as easily exploited and once optimized, is far superior to and far more versatile than the swift. The secret of the .220 swift as a varmint rifle I have liked the .220 swift more than my 22-250 for the following reasons. I have a 243 winchester and not trying to split hairs here and was wondering to keep it for coyotes or trade for a 220 swift? When a 38.0 grain charge behind a 52 grain bullet gave one hole groups from his 22-caliber wildcat (now called the 22-250), he appropriately named the powder H380. Barrel life is more shooter than anything. Extensive information about rifle cartridge trajectory. If you like extreme range shooting, AR rifles, minimum recoil, and possibly saving money on ammo (vs. 6.5 Creedmoor), the Valkyrie might be your baby. Fishing. Never had a 220 swift, but a friend who is professional kangaroo harvester (he's shot well in excess of 100,000 animals) always had 22-250's, then switched to .243's, now has a 220 swift and absolutely swears by it. .222, .223, .22-250, .220 swift and #.243. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or j H380 is also a superb performer in the 220 Swift, 243, 257 Roberts and other fine varmint cartridges. Barrel life is more shooter than anything. 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