Tien actually managed to blast away Super Buu's blast(a blast powerful enough to kill Goku). I don't care what people say. for me, krillin is a bit stronger than yamcha in the boo saga, because he trained with 18 a bit ( a little bit ) and yamcha didn't train never after the cell games, and in the 21 budokai tenkaichi, krillin is a bit stronger too, because he Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha... who's stronger? This attitude has cos… i think krillin has more skill, but tien is stronger. If Tien was stronger at the end of Z, and Krillin stopped training, then how is Krillin stronger in Super? Ultimately tien and krillin are probably comparable in the same way goku and vegeta are more or less comparable at this point. Tien has shown himself to be useful in combat with the stronger villains than yamcha and krillin combined. Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, Roshi, Yamcha, etc. This is to be expected though as he is human and he has far less experience compared to Master Roshi (though we don't find out he is still really strong until Super). In the Bojack movie Tien was on Why because, Yamcha is tien's rival and both have show to be stronger than krillin throughout the series. AT stated that Krillin was the strongest human. 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ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. even when they were kids, he assumes people are weak, so he attacks and they turn out to be strong, like Fangs the vampire, or lord slug Tien is the better fighter, even if Krillin might be a little stronger, Tien's a lot smarter. Tien’s first death even came as a result of using the technique to try (and fail) to kill Nappa. Chazou is also strong but weaker than yamcha. I think in the Android Saga: Yamcha is stronger than Oozaru Saiyan Saga Vegeta but weaker than 1st Form Frieza, same goes for Krillin. The writing constantly contradicts itself. Now the difference between those scenarios were the amount of energy that Tien had at that point in time. Tien is more skilled. I think Tien was a fair bit ahead of the other earthlings, but behind the Base Saiyans. Everyone that replied is debating over nothing. Although his power level has never been able to keep up with that of Goku (which he is painfully aware of,) he’s never backed down from a fight. There's already a thread about this. Compared to all the other Human Z fighters, Krillin is pretty powerful for as much as he seems weak. However, His most powerful signature moves is the Shin Kikohou, the Tri-Beam. Other than that, those other levels shouldn't exist. If these feats take place in the next manga chapter, then we know it's in AT's script that Krillin>Tien. Both of them still prove to be creative combatants, using technique and strategy to overcome stronger enemies and stay alive through most of the franchise. Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, Roshi, Yamcha, etc. Muten roshi gave up training way back in the orginal dragonball after the first goku vs tien tournament fight. The supporting cast is basically useless. Krillin is not naturally bald; due to his original monas… While Tenshinhan, given stated battle powers, was stronger than Kuririn at the time of the Saiya-jin Saga, by the Cell Saga it seems pretty clear that Kuririn is the stronger. Dragon Ball: How Many People Has Goku Killed? Despite that, two humans, Krillin and Tien … I will say that Tien was much stronger than his saiyan saga counter part but he still wasn't stronger than Krillin. I want be too hard on you guys, because I once thought the same thing. Krillin is shown to be training with 18, Tien, with Chiatzu, so I figure Krillin has the better training partner, as stated. Nothing puts him above Krillin. Yamcha was either busy getting blown up, impaled, or having his leg broken to do anything and all krillin ever did was Wikis. Here's a quote from a previous editor who I should say inspired me to write this: "Tien first entered the series stronger than Krillin, and all throughout the rest of Dragon Ball, it's a given fact that Tien is the strongest of the two. Goku was stronger, but Tien manages to be faster than him (Goku was said by Tien to have the same speed he had 3 years ago against King Piccolo). re: The strongest human:Krillin or Tien? Santiago - Dragon Ball Wiki. Tien was also the next hero to be knocked out of the battle after Krillin. are all considered weak because they cant stop making the saiyans stronger and stronger. 3) In the Namek Saga, the combined efforts of Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan were no match for Recoome. Yes, in more than one source. Nothing puts him above Krillin. In the original Dragon Ball. User Info: KaijuKing97. yeah, tien's a better fighter, people often think Krillin loses a lot because he's weak, but it's mostly because he picks a lot fights with really strong people. 3) In the Namek Saga, the combined efforts of Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan were no match for Recoome. Tien, on the other hand, was stronger than Jeice and Burter one-on-one. 1. While it’s powerful enough to hold massive threats like Semi-Perfect Cell at bay, it also has a major cost. This is Super Anime only. Roshi admits it's only because he had the height advantage that he won, because Goku was a lot stronger than Roshi. And on that note as well, are there any humans stronger than they are? He took part in many of the battles in Dragon Ball Z, although he died while going up against Nappa and Buu. In the Bojack movie Tien was on par with Trunks while Krillin was too busy being scared by the fact that Piccolo, Trunks, Vegeta, and Gohan were in the tournament. Krillen stops training after the 3 years they trained to prepare for the androids. Do you disagree or agree, if so why? For both warriors, this is probably best on display during the Cell Saga in Dragon Ball Z and the Tournament of Power during Dragon Ball Super. User blog:Bio-electricity2/Who is stronger,Tien ,yamcha,or krillin? Master Roshi's power retcon once again makes him someone who can keep up with at least some of the Z-Warriors. out of everyone who is all human,(besides Uub who is a reincarnation of buu)Krillin is probably the strongest. Going solely by the evidence shown on screen, Tien seems slightly stronger than Krillin. In the Dragon Ball franchise, humanity has long been passed over in terms of power. It's called "who is stronger krillin or tien?" Krillin trained, but he didn't do it as much and actually stopped for a few years after Cell. The fact that neither of them can keep up with the likes of the Saiyans doesn’t keep them from being skilled fighters, however. By this point in the Dragon Ball saga, both Krillin and Tien have been dramatically outclassed by the franchise’s powerhouses. Going up against the Androids and Cell was almost impossible for either of them, but Krillin still proved capable of surviving a hit directly from Perfect Cell while Tien held Semi-Perfect Cell at bay (almost at the cost of his life) using the life-draining Shin Kikohou. Technically we've yet to see tien's full power, Toriyama can't just and create a handsome character like tien and not give us a. Originally running a protection racket with Tien Shinhan, he is a martial artist … Santiago Tien is human... And he is stronger than Krillin. Yamcha was either busy getting blown up, impaled, or having his leg broken to do anything and all krillin ever did was babysit. Krillin at least fought 2 guys on the same level as 18 and defeated them. 3) Tien 4) Krillen The reason I think Tien is stronger than Krillen is because of the height advantage. Nothing puts him above Krillin. don't be an idiot, even in Dragonball Krillin did better against Tien than Yamcha. 2. Tien was the star student of Tsuru-Sen’nin, the long-time rival to Master Roshi. KaijuKing97 2 years ago #28. 2) Tien defeated Goku in the tournament in which Tien turned good after Goku had defeated Krillin. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Dragon Ball Super: Why Frieza Still Isn’t a Good Guy After Saving the Universe. Tien goes on to train with King Kai, while Krillin gets a boost from Super Kami Guru. They kind of put Tien in the same pot but he was able to do some stuff through the story, like keeping Cell down to buy them some … He is at least stronger than Tenshinhan during the Cell Games, and … I will say that Tien was much stronger than his saiyan saga counter part but he still wasn't stronger than Krillin. Krillin or Tien? Follow me on Twitter- Thundershot75. Krillin could fly around the world while he do a 500m run. However, later on, they seem to have disappeared completely, making the inside of his eyes the same color as his skin. Still, his quick-thinking and unique power set have allowed him to survive many more battles impressive than most might expect. In a world filled with impossibly strong androids and aliens like the Saiyans and Namekians, it can be tough for a regular human in that world of fighters. This other guy? Krillin might have been showcased more, but doesn't necessarily mean he is stronger Cell Saga Tien >>>>>>>>>>> Cell and Frieza Saga Krillin. Krillin was initially introduced as a rival for the young Goku. Meanwhile, both of them served as members of Team 7 during the multiversal Tournament of Power. 7 years ago I agree that Krillin is stronger than Yamcha, but I would say that Tien is probably stronger than Krillin. I'm talking about these guys Yamcha Roshi Tien Krillin 18 17 Goten Kid Trunks Videl Hercule Piccolo I think by the end of the original series, the only non Saiyan who could take on someone stronger than Frieza was Piccolo. Tien was even victorious in his fight with the heroes, breaking Yamcha’s leg and eventually defeating Goku in the final match. In the manga that never happened and they spent even less time than Goku at King Kai's place than Goku did. The big jump is that, while Tien trained with King Kai, Krillen got his power unlocked to get him to a stronger level than Goku got to with Kai. Krillin Even if that means that Tien might actually be a bit stronger at this point, strength doesn’t always guarantee a win in Dragon Ball. They trained together under Master Roshi, but over time, the two became lifelong friends. yes krillin is the strongest human ever, tien shinhan comes close to krillins power but krillins is still greater, the only pure human that was ever stronger then krillin was uub, after he was trained by goku in dragonball gt. like this: mystic gohan may be stronger then ssj3 goku(he is), but goku is a brilliant fighter who could probably find some way to beat his son. Fandom Apps Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. He is easily stronger than Krillen. As human who more closely resembles a ghost or Chinese vampire, Chiaotzu has been around for the vast majority of the Dragon Ball canon.. Tien's speed is so great that makes Yamcha and Krillin not being able to see Do you disagree or Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Using it too much drains the life-force from Tien, and it can even kill him. He’s even found love on the battlefield, eventually winning the heart of the (initially antagonistic) Android 18 and raising a child with her. Krillin is the weakest. Frieza saga Krillin > Tien,Cell saga Tien > Krillins and Buu saga onwards Krillin > Tien for being on more than 10 panels. Yamcha would win. Akira Toriyama stated that Krillin is stronger but this is a huge plot hole because Krillin has no feats on his side. Despite that, two humans, Krillin and Tien have stayed at the forefront of the battles that defined Dragon Ball Z. As an adult, he is still short, standing at only 5 feet tall.Earlier on in the series, Krillin had eye whites. Nothing puts him above Krillin. Krillin is stronger physically but Roshi is smarter as a fighter. @Saki19 bad writing and the ignoring if Who is the Strongest Earthling? like this: mystic gohan may be stronger then ssj3 goku(he is), but goku is a brilliant fighter who could probably find some way to beat his son. Even at that point I believe Tien to be more powerful. Tien trained until the end of the buu saga AT LEAST. In Dragon Ball Universe who is more powerful Krillin or Tien? There are people on both sides, but the general consensus is that Krillin is the strongest human. Krillin could lift him and his 500pound boulder using a single finger. In the past, it was clear that Roshi had been surpassed by Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, and even Chiaotzu, but this may no longer be true.If he's stronger than Tien, there's a good chance that he could defeat Yamcha and Krillin … His Scatter Bullet shoots a large blast into the air that then separates into multiple smaller and faster blasts, allowing him to cover a wider range or target multiple enemies. Krillin couldn't do that. He also has the blinding Solar Flare, the Four Witches Technique that gives him another set of arms and the Multi-Form, which allows Tien to make four identical copies of himself to strike from multiple directions at once in battle. Tein isn't on par with a super saiyan..tien isn't stronger than a super saiyan ... At Cell Games Tien, Krillin and Yamcha could really keep up fight in the short time with Cell jrs. Meanwhile, Krillin has more creative abilities and clever tactics, along with more experience going up against tougher enemies and (barely) surviving. While Tien might have more technically powerful moves, they come with a cost that Krillin doesn’t have to risk. Just look at the facts. During the Budoukai at the start of the Buu Saga, Yamcha is talking to Marron (Kuririn's daughter) and comforts her by telling her that her dad will be … The supporting cast is basically useless. Yamcha got rusty that’s the only reason Krillin surpassed him, he Saiyan saga Yamcha was stronger than Krillin, but when Krillin got angry that Yamcha He survived the Saiyan attack, kept Frieza’s Second Form at bay while Goku healed on Namek, held his own against Imperfect Cell and survived a direct hit from Perfect Cell. You could argue this makes tien the stronger of the two by the time buu appears but there is really nothing to confirm this. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Tien never stoped training. Tien or Krillin?!? There's already a thread about this. Trained by Master Roshi, Krillin is capable of using moves created by other martial artists, such as the Solar Flare and Kamehameha. Starting our list off is the ever constant ally and best friend of Tien Shinhan, Chiaotzu. Krillin was initially introduced as a rival for the young Goku. His Jumping Energy Wave allows him to clear attacks with ease, and his most distinct power is the Destructo Disc, a razor-sharp energy disc that can cut through almost anything. Tien, on the other hand, was stronger than Jeice and Burter one-on-one. Games Movies TV Video. Tien most likely made small gains after the Cell Saga. Although Krillin was eliminated from the Tournament before Tien, he was able to bring down three opponents as opposed to Tien’s two. in the same way Goku is tien's rival. Krillin has six small dots on his forehead and a monk-like orange gi as a child. He’s capable of the Dodon Ray, a powerful blast from his finger. It goes beyond his background and training. People base Tien having gotten stronger on the Ginyu Force filler fight. RELATED: Dragon Ball Super: Why Frieza Still Isn’t a Good Guy After Saving the Universe. But, like Krillin, he’s never let himself give up. 2) Tien defeated Goku in the tournament in which Tien turned good after Goku had defeated Krillin. https://tenshinhanpowerlevels.blogspot.com/2008/10/tenshinhan … Despite that, two humans, Krillin and Tien have stayed at the forefront of the battles that defined Dragon Ball Z.Even though they’ve never fought each other directly, we’re going to take a closer look at both fighters to see which one of Earth’s toughest human champions is really stronger. It's called "who is stronger krillin or tien?" D&D Beyond In the original Dragon Ball. Compared to all the other Human Z fighters, Krillin is pretty powerful for as much as he seems weak. Tien really is stronger. I'd say Krillin is slightly stronger, but Tien is the better fighter of the two. 1. Although his power level has never been able to keep up with that of Goku (which he is painfully aware of,) he's never backed down from a fight. His only gimmick is the Kikoho which bends the rules by making it much stronger than the conventional technique at the cost of life force. They fought alongside each other against King Piccolo, cementing their friendship for life. He's also a human. in the same way Goku is tien's rival. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Like his best friend Chaozu, he was initially an antagonist in Dragon Ball who debuted during the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament, competing against Goku and his friends. Now the difference between those scenarios were the amount of energy that Tien had at that point in time. This has been a debate I've seen so many times throughout the years from the Dragon Ball franchise. He also has a number of abilities that are unique to him. Dragon Ball: 15 Characters Stronger Than Krillin (And 15 Strange Ones Who Aren’t) Krillin is definitely the strongest human, but that doesn't mean much. Tien didn't. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Even though they’ve never fought each other directly, we’re going to take a closer look at both fighters to see which one of Earth’s toughest human champions is really stronger. In a world filled with impossibly strong androids and aliens like the Saiyans and Namekians, it can be tough for a regular human in that world of fighters. The little war machine bellow look pretty tough no? If the two came up against one another, Krillin could probably out-maneuver Tien. There is also the fact that Tien always trains. In the Dragon Ball franchise, humanity has long been passed over in terms of power. Explore Wikis; Community Central; Start a Wiki; Search This wiki This wiki All wikis | Sign In Don't have an account? In Dragonball when child Goku fights master Roshi and loses. While we may never know for sure until they come to blows, Krillin is arguably the better fighter out of the two of them, and arguably the stronger of the two since he had his potential unlocked on Namek. Dragon Ball / DBZ / GT Anime/Manga Chat After the Cell Games Krillin stopped training and got married. Krillin was always stronger, but Tien's Tri-Beam could stun Krillin because Tien managed to stun Semi-Perfect Cell despite the huge power gap. out of everyone who is all human,(besides Uub who is a reincarnation of buu)Krillin is probably the strongest. Krillin is stronger then Tien and Yamcha and he gets destroyed by base Frieza. Who's stronger? See the guy bellow? are all considered weak because they cant stop making the saiyans stronger and stronger. but then when ubb he was fighting baby in dragonball gt he was about to die so majin buu (fat buu) fused with ubb … Oh yeah, Yamcha's tien's rival. Tien has shown himself to be useful in combat with the stronger villains than yamcha and krillin combined. But along the way, he came to respect Goku, especially after their friends Krillin and Chaozu were killed. don't be an idiot, even in Dragonball Krillin did better against Tien than Yamcha. Edit: Grammar Press J to jump to the feed. Krillin was always stronger, but Tien's Tri-Beam could stun Krillin because Tien managed to stun Semi-Perfect Cell despite the huge power gap. But while Krillin found peace in the early days of Dragon Ball Super, Tien’s training never really stopped. Krillin couldn't touch a Ginyu even with his potential energy unlocked so how is Krillin stronger than Tien? Presented as a worthy challenger to Dragon Ball's Goku, Tien even manages - with some luck - to defeat the protagonist in the … Since Tien wasn’t trained by Master Roshi, his abilities differ from other heroes like Goku, Krillin and Yamcha. Krillin is in supar far stronger than Tien, hell Tien didnt even have a hand to hand combat in the whole tournement. In fact, this is probably one of the biggest debates among fans today. To Tien Fans, This is why Krillin is stronger than Tien. The supporting cast is basically useless. Yamcha at the 23rd Budokai and 22nd Budokai was stronger. I think the best thing we can do is go off of what Toriyama said about Krillin being stronger because both Krillin and Tien fight at such a lower level of power. I think krillin is but i want to know. Dragon Ball is home to endlessly evolving Saiyans, androids pre-installed with combat data along with infinite stamina, galactic warlords enamored with destroying planets, and literal deities. Imperfected Nobody ever really doubts that. However, I highly doubt it will. Tien never stopped training throughout the whole series. 'DWTS' crowns new champion and viewers are not happy For any pro Krillin/Tien argument one should only refer to the material thats present in both anime and manga. i think krillin has more skill, but tien is stronger. 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