Preiss wasn't expecting you to dig through some nice lawn in the middle of a park or an athletic field. So no dig is likely to happen. [5] The remaining nine treasure boxes have not yet been recovered. It’s not just finding random willy-nilly things that fit the clues, yet do not fit a linear path. ", "Every treasure casque is buried underground, at a depth of no more than three to three and one-half feet. Here are some of the better known treasures to be found in North America. This list will grow, as I find more to share in this treasure hunting series. John Jude Palencar did say about the reprints of the books that the images were “HORRIBLE”! Would Preiss have dug all that up and then put it back?? Keep in mind that Preiss and Palencar didn't have access to Google Maps. Spring 2020 Update: Now that we're all social distancing and trying to avoid the crowds, this is a great time to get outside and take some pictures. The scans you see online end up brightening the images. Even if he got permission from John Colby and Brick Tower Press to do so, he still doesn't want anyone else to have or make High resolution photos of the paintings. He did say that Byron would drop in and stay at his place when passing through. (which is how we know the curve you point out is not the centaurs tail.). I would ask people to refrain from using statements like, “too bad that guy is in the wrong area!”, or, “ I’ve poked around for half a day at your location, and it’s a total waste of time, everybody.” None of us knows where the casque is buried, so unless somebody’s research is just wack from the get go, it is irresponsible and plain rude to make absolute determinations about the validity of someone’s theory, unless you can show with absolute certainty that it is wrong. The shadows fade to black very quickly. Your treasure hunt will contain over 1000 polished gemstones as well as rare and valuable faceted gemstones. Just something to think about as we try and solve these. I am impressed. The same is true in San Francisco, whether you're rooting for Coit Tower or Sutro Tower, they are both far away from all of the other clues. Preiss was killed in an auto accident in the summer of 2005, but the hunt for his casques continues. Or it it blank? http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/125344901/Img3_Signature_Comparison.jpg Terms of use / Privacy policy / GDPR, About this workspace Since the time of its release, only 2 3 casques have ever been found, leaving the remaining 10 9 yet to be discovered. Searchers may want to download copies of the most useful photos now, so that they aren't lost forever. Many of the clues can only be solved by poring over obscure sources in a library. Because honestly, they are DARK in real life. And watching Expedition Unknown, when I saw how huge the Palencar paintings are, I thought, if I were the artist, I'd be annoyed that my 20 by 35 paintings (or bigger?) The sad reality is that this one is probably gone for good. It's not. Anyhoo, it is worth while to get a really good copy from your local printer? It’s still there.This wiki had a solution for Image 6 that required a large pine tree in a certain place, but we didn’t realize that the pine was still there until wiki users Marvin Calhoun, Zteam, and Andy Hafler nailed down the evidence.3) Even more amazing? We have a partial write-up for the Solution to Image 5 and Verse 12, but it could use more photos and more detail. That just doesn't seem likely at all. Amazingly, the property has changed very little over the past 35 years and all of the major landmarks are still in place. Expedition Unknown: 'The Secret' Treasure Found in Boston Josh Gates teams up with puzzle and game designer, Jason Krupat, to solve the 'Boston Verse' section of 'The Secret… By posting new theories and new discoveries in a single, ever-lengthening thread, each forum created such a backlog of unorganized material that it was impossible for anyone to keep track of what had already been found. If anyone knows of an arborist who might be willing to provide an air spade and handle the excavation, please contact us through this site. numbers, stick people? James Renner is on a quest to discover the others, and he invites you to join the hunt. The clues narrow the spot down to only a few square feet on the surface, so a dig would be practical. Keep up the good work! The Secret: A Treasure Hunt was published in America in 1982. I was calling about the possibility of making better photographs of his art work than we have now. The verses are supposed to take you from a start point, to an end point in a linear fashion, while the Images contain visual clues you should see on your way...along with clues to narrowing the search down to a certain place in a certain city to make this linear journey. Partly out of his honor to Byron Preiss and not to get into any litigation about it. Posting this on the front page as I think it's relevant to multiple (or all) puzzles. If you're struggling to get two feet down and you're still hitting rocks at that depth, I'd say you have some pretty powerful evidence that you're in the wrong place. Funny side - There was a wedding going on in the park in 2004 when they found the cascade. The Secret is a treasure hunt started by Byron Preiss in 1982. The "object of Twain's attention" is not likely to be on any list of the first hundred things one might think of after researching the life of Mark Twain. Unearthing the remaining casques will very likely require getting cooperation and permissions from various public and private landowners. Thank you! We need people to investigate the spot and map out the birch stumps along East Ravine Road. The key to finding the casques Preiss had buried and subsequently winning the jewels was to match one of the paintings to one of verses, solve the resulting riddle, and start digging! Page views on the site are back down to under 10,000/day and hopefully property owners are feeling less besieged by requests to dig. He did say to me but certainly to all the ones in the group I was calling for “Good luck in the hunt”. Please add any additional information you have! Charleston Searchers:  We have a Proposed Solution for Image 2 and Verse 6, but the chances of recovery are very slim. Sorry to ask such a question, but in my dig, the earth is full of boulders and large rock, shale, black rock, clay and bricks.....So I am wondering if I am wasting my time here on the spot we have been trying to dig?? What this means for searchers is that, after starting along the route, all of the clues are going to be for small, innocuous features that wouldn't be mentioned in any guidebook. 2019 News: For some inexplicable reason, someone buried a fake casque in GGP and it was unearthed in February. ok, i have to say reading Origins the artwork of John Jude Palencar helps me out some.. one thing for sure, i would love one day to sit JJP backyard and have a glass of Cognac smoke a stogie and talk about his art work, such a fascinating mans history. was published in 1982. The second was unearthed in 2004 in Cleveland by two members of the Quest4Treasure forum. -Finally, he said that solving any puzzle could be done multiple ways using mathematics, optics, astronomical, geographical, topographical, mechanical, and historical. Possibly it is coincidence or possibly there is a water-related theme that no one has fully explained yet. Apparently He does know were some of them are buried. Status: The search for Casque 12 has now narrowed to the base of a single street tree near the edge of New York Harbor. In 1982, The Secret: A Treasure Hunt by Byron Preiss was published. And, of course, remember that what you add may end up getting changed or removed by another wiki editor. He quickly backed up by saying that he could not say by 5 ft or 5 miles really. Just food for thought. Preiss was obviously a responsible citizen and he wouldn't have wanted his treasure hunt to cause any harm or do any damage. Launched: 1982 Prize: Twelve treasure ‘casques’ were buried at secret locations in the United States and Canada.These special boxes contain a key that can be redeemed for a gem worth around $1,000. If the asphalt covering was put down 25 years ago to improve accessibility, it has probably kept the soil and the casque undisturbed all this time. Those places would have made it far easier for Preiss to dig without being observed, but they would also make it less clear why searchers should get permission before digging. In setting up his puzzle in 1981, Preiss included an obscure quote about the majesty of the former hotel. As for the Terminal Tower, I believe it was included so that locals would spot an easily recognizable landmark to connect it to their City. If your solution sends you to a well-maintained or heavily-trafficked area, it's almost certainly wrong. Broadly speaking, there are two types of puzzles in The Secret: The key thing to keep in mind in solving a journey puzzle is that none of the clues after the initial starting point were meant to be interpreted by armchair enthusiasts (using 1980's tools). Pls message me if you're interested in helping out. Each box has a ceramic key that would be exchanged for a gem valued at around $1,000. It’s creator, Byron Preiss, was inspired by the book, Masquerade , which was published in the U.K. in 1979. Be sure your contributions are always professional, courteous, and helpful to the search. You don't have permission to comment on this page. With destination puzzles the situation is reversed. Famed undersea treasure hunter Mel Fisher is noted for his 16-year hunt for the Spanish galleon Nuestra Señora de Atocha, sunk in 1622 near the Florida Keys. In Wednesday’s episode of Expedition Unknown, Josh Gates will interview a Boston family who located buried treasure from the 1982 book The Secret.The tome … He was referring to the TV footage of the Milwaukee casque hunt. Careful and substantive contributions are always welcome! Though it is likely he may have been working on the puzzle for a while before that. I share this because I used to think that I should be analyzing every pinpoint of the pictures. Marks the Spot for Buried Treasure", "Discovery Channel team to dig up Charleston's White Point Garden in search of buried key", "In Search of the Roanoke Island Casque of The Secret Armchair Treasure Hunt: Six Questions with Dustin and Deidra White", "Treasure: A 22-year quest ends in a park in Cleveland", "Travel Channel show revisits '80s treasure find in Grant Park", "The Secret of Byron Preiss: How they found the Chicago key", "There's a secret treasure in New Orleans. He did say Josh Gates was close. But we know he is obligated at many levels not to tell. This approach would actually help the tree by undoing decades of compaction and allowing water and air to reach the roots. thanks for any input. (Just don't try to dig without permission.). Treasure … ), The Rules - Site Summary - Tips for Puzzle Solving - Online Resources, "The jewels collectively are worth over ten thousand dollars. THE SECRET: A TREASURE HUNT was published in 1982. The site appears to have remained relatively undisturbed over the past 30 years, and the casque may be recoverable. The casques are only going to be in places that have already been disturbed by humans and where further digging wouldn't be a problem. My daughter and I have been trying in an area....and I admit I am the weak one...LOL however she is not, but we can't even probe because we hit rock, so we keep digging we are about 2 1/2 feet downish, and we go a little wider so you can get into the spot, but keep digging huge rock??? If you are asking when he might have buried the casques, according to publicity interviews Preiss did when the book launched in Nov, 1982 - they give varying accounts on when he did it but all seem to point to a time frame of Fall/Winter '81 to early Spring '82. Security cameras will probably make a secret dig impossible. We have received several reports of unauthorized people digging holes around the park. And in July, to provide some 'closure' to those who had searched in other states, Fenn revealed that the chest had been hidden in Wyoming. Side - I am always a believer in poking beyond the dug hole in all directions just in case you are close. Important: Please do not dig in Golden Gate Park without permission! It won't be easy (or cheap) but a dedicated searcher might be able to get it done. As of October 2019 only three of the twelve boxes have been found. But doing that with a printout might be a different experience than trying it with the book. If you have ideas about several different casques, split them up and post each one separately on the appropriate page. Thanks to wiki user Kia for the update! Houston Searchers:   We have posted a very detailed Solution for Image 8 and Verse 1 that walks through the different clues and narrows the spot down to about a square yard. Thoughts anyoneeeee, I think we all agree that new obstacles to digging may have been added on top of the casques over the past 37 years. Hot on … all I have to say is WOW the work and time you have done Oregonian, is amazing,, thank you so much, for those interested in see what JJP was sketching for Image 5 i just uploaded it Chicago Sketch. This book included clues to 12 buried treasure casques, which once found, contained a ‘key’ used to claim a valuable gemstone. For the most part images I saw in an area were images from the artist, not watermarks in the paper. Josh Gates: Byron’s book is a fascinating and sometimes maddening treasure hunt. San Francisco Searchers: We have a Proposed Solution for Image 1 and Verse 7 that narrows the search area to a small section of path at the top of an outdoor stairwell in Golden Gate Park. Likewise, they cherish silver, for it puts them in mind of moonlight and icicles. The map gets us to the right area and then the verse takes us on a stroll through some of the local landmarks. Milwaukee Searchers: We have a Proposed Solution for Image 10 and Verse 8. or your own? [4][5] The first was found in Chicago, Illinois; the second in Cleveland, Ohio; and the most recent treasure box was found in Boston, Massachusetts. The whole point is to reward exploration and the discovery of the obscure features one can only see at "see-level.". Expedition Unknown showed up to film an episode, but no substantive evidence was produced to support the find. It's very hard to imagine that Preiss would A) dig through rocks and bricks to make his hole, and then B) put the rocks and bricks BACK where they would be obstacles for the next diggers. A native of Brooklyn, New York City, Byron Preiss graduated magna cum laude from the University of Pennsylvania in 1972, and earned a master's degree in communications from Stanford University.. Looking back from treasure ground There’s the spout! At the very least, you'll get some exercise and some fresh air, which is always a good thing. If you are citizen of an European Union member nation, you may not use this service unless you are at least 16 years old. And it is something that is able to be made more clear via photoshop-like enhancement. PBworks / Help As of October 2019 only three of the twelve boxes have been found. Brother Twelve's Gold in Vancouver, BC 6. more to come soon! There was no official follow-up from the paper or the TV show, but unofficial reports said that they dug the hole on 5/8/19 and didn't find anything. Unfortunately though, the final spot is under a cabbage palm that the owners want to protect. (Maltedfalcon, this isn’t meant to be directed at you, as (IMHO) you obviously had cause to call out false info.) He buried 12 treasure boxes in 12 parks across North America. I am trying to remember them while I type. Dig Status: Solved Gem value: $1,200 in 1982 I think its a bit archaic but when it comes to dark images that we are working with it may pay off to see some clues, from images that are dark. The odds alone of getting those 16 letters in that order are 1 in 43 sextillion. Your solution shouldn't require you to tear up a lawn or disturb a natural area. Status: In 1980 or 1981, when Byron Preiss visited Houston to bury a casque, there was an antique steam locomotive (Number 982) prominently positioned on the southern edge of McGovern Lake in Hermann Park. There is no "treasure" to be had for finding a casque. Pirate's Gold along Florida's Coast 3. It will help us learn more about these puzzles and about how we can solve the rest of them. Arrows along the edge of the clock face were meant to take searchers on either of two walking routes through the streets of the Central Business District from the Piazza d'Italia (constructed in 1978) to the parking lot where the hotel once stood. Part 2 of 2. Sadly, this casque was probably lost when the Place St. Charles was constructed on the site of the former hotel in 1983. The site has no aesthetic or historical value, so it should be easy to get approval. I don't believe that the verses are always linear. Historical records show that the amphitheater was going through a period of decline when Preiss hid his casques in the early 1980's. So he had previously lived in SF and had to have been quite familiar with the area. In the Cleveland puzzle, the part that has the specific directions to the exact dig spot are in the middle of the verse - while the directions that immediately precede that step (leading you to the spot) come after. I'm pretty sure I already shared this before, but I wanted to share it again for anyone else who is new and who does not own a copy of the book. Can you describe the hint revealed in detail? The text of the book includes twelve verses that describe (in varying detail) where a casque is hidden. He was on a roll at this point. The Thrill of the Hunt. Status: The search for Casque 1 has narrowed to a strip of land in Golden Gate Park, extending from the eastern end of Strawberry Hill to the California Academy of Sciences. But if there are only two objects above the crossed arms, and both of them are shown in a way that clearly indicates a flip, then it seems very clear that we are meant to flip the upper half of the image from left to right. Following the removal of the Maine monument in 2007, the city dug a large hole to build a concrete base for the Moultrie monument. Josh asks "what's that painting in the background?" Not that something might slip out unintentionally. It appears that the tree may have escaped the worst of Hurricane Sandy in 2012 and the casque may still be recoverable. Biography Early life and career. Will try though but don’t get excited! Each casque contained a small key that could be redeemed for one of 12 jewels Preiss kept in a safe deposit box in New York. What you won't see is any mention of a major tourist landmark that would have been on maps or brochures in 1980. One other thing...there are a few people on here that aren’t being very respectful toward other folks theories, or thinking about the hard work that goes into them. Also as mentioned- the next image is printed directly onto the back of that image. But before he revealed the secret locations to anyone else, the author died in 2005. (But, of course, the "Oak Island type" searchers will insist that the rocks are proof that someone was trying to protect something of value just a little bit deeper...), So does anyone know approximately when BP was in San Fran, trying to take time for book to be written and published and all, may be late 1980 early 81? If you look at my Chicago solve link above, you will see the exact same pattern were the Water Tower is the furthermost visual clue from the rest. The treasure casques themselves are of incalculable value, never having been owned by man or woman." That thread now has more than 5,700 entries, making it very difficult for new people to join the search and get caught up. (Other contributions are always welcome too, of course! hey question, when Bryon gave away the incorrect gem, which one did he give by accident and which one were they supposed to have gotten.. thanks, OMG did yall hear.. i am a proud owner of a Palencars COCK, yeppers sure am.. LMAO one Divine Cock, In case anyone here has ever been curious about whether BP had a methodology to his madness, or not: https://youtu.be/jTVLFPu4_jc, In case anyone here is interested in hearing more about BP's possible methodology: https://youtu.be/4eAwaUE62tw, In case anyone here is interested in learning more about BP's possible methodology and the use of real-life people for the Fair Folk: https://youtu.be/bkdcgiEuJqM, In case anyone here is interested in learning about some new and some validated clues for the hunt: https://youtu.be/yAYL8xE9gbQ. 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